Comments on: Poker Link Request Emails That Suck (And One That Doesn’t) http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/poker-link-building/poker-link-request-emails-that-suck-and-one-that-doesnt/ Poker SEO & Link Building Strategy, Tactics and Techniques Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:58:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Randy Ray http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/poker-link-building/poker-link-request-emails-that-suck-and-one-that-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1243 Randy Ray Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:59:19 +0000 http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/?p=232#comment-1243 Nick- Okay. you link to 30 high quality sites, and only 5 of them link back to you. What do you lose by leaving the other 25 links up? Why would you WANT to take those links down? You're supposed to link to sites that you'd recommend to your visitors. If the only reason you're linking to them is in order to get a link back from them, then you're not linking to them for the right reasons. It's fine for that to be ONE of your reasons for linking to them. It's not a good strategy if that's to be your ONLY reason for linking to them. Suppose you email those 30 sites without adding their link first, and you only get 1 link instead of 5. Now you have 1 outbound link on your site and 1 inbound link on their site. Would you rather have 30 outbound links on your site and 5 links pointing to your site, or 1 outbound link on your site and 1 link point to your site? Is a site that recommends 30 high quality poker sites a better resource for its visitors than a site that recommends 1 (or 5) high quality poker site(s)? Does being a resource for your visitors have any value to your business? Does it have any value to your SEO strategy? Is it possible that sites which are better resources attract more links over the long run <i>just by virtue of being a good resource</i>? How could you not have room on your site to link out to 30 sites? You can put links to 30 different sites on a single "recommended sites" page. You can link to 3 related resources on 10 different article pages, or you can link to 1 related resource on 30 different article pages? It's good for your site to have a lot of links pointing at it. But it's good for your site to link to a lot of other sites too. I think some webmasters operate under the notion that they lose something by linking out, but that just isn't the case. Randy Nick-

Okay. you link to 30 high quality sites, and only 5 of them link back to you. What do you lose by leaving the other 25 links up? Why would you WANT to take those links down? You’re supposed to link to sites that you’d recommend to your visitors. If the only reason you’re linking to them is in order to get a link back from them, then you’re not linking to them for the right reasons. It’s fine for that to be ONE of your reasons for linking to them. It’s not a good strategy if that’s to be your ONLY reason for linking to them.

Suppose you email those 30 sites without adding their link first, and you only get 1 link instead of 5. Now you have 1 outbound link on your site and 1 inbound link on their site.

Would you rather have 30 outbound links on your site and 5 links pointing to your site, or 1 outbound link on your site and 1 link point to your site?

Is a site that recommends 30 high quality poker sites a better resource for its visitors than a site that recommends 1 (or 5) high quality poker site(s)? Does being a resource for your visitors have any value to your business? Does it have any value to your SEO strategy?

Is it possible that sites which are better resources attract more links over the long run just by virtue of being a good resource?

How could you not have room on your site to link out to 30 sites? You can put links to 30 different sites on a single “recommended sites” page. You can link to 3 related resources on 10 different article pages, or you can link to 1 related resource on 30 different article pages?

It’s good for your site to have a lot of links pointing at it. But it’s good for your site to link to a lot of other sites too. I think some webmasters operate under the notion that they lose something by linking out, but that just isn’t the case.

Randy

]]> By: Hazo http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/poker-link-building/poker-link-request-emails-that-suck-and-one-that-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1239 Hazo Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:59:40 +0000 http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/?p=232#comment-1239 Hey Randy, If you are looking to get links on a site without a blog or a "partners" page that is a lot of links you are going to be dishing out. I guess it all comes back to having a site with a lot of content. If I am going to give out a link to every site that I would like a link from (in advance), I'm not going to have many decent places left. For example, if I make a list of 30 sites that I want links from that are all high in quality. I put up all their links and only 5 decide to link back to me. What now. Do it again? Take the links down? P.s I have been reading a lot of Michael Martinez' site lately. I am only 1/100000 of the way through it. Every post I have read is spot on the mark. I will tell him personally. Nick Hey Randy,

If you are looking to get links on a site without a blog or a “partners” page that is a lot of links you are going to be dishing out. I guess it all comes back to having a site with a lot of content.

If I am going to give out a link to every site that I would like a link from (in advance), I’m not going to have many decent places left.

For example, if I make a list of 30 sites that I want links from that are all high in quality. I put up all their links and only 5 decide to link back to me. What now. Do it again? Take the links down?

P.s I have been reading a lot of Michael Martinez’ site lately. I am only 1/100000 of the way through it. Every post I have read is spot on the mark. I will tell him personally.

Nick

]]> By: Randy Ray http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/poker-link-building/poker-link-request-emails-that-suck-and-one-that-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1236 Randy Ray Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:00:04 +0000 http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/?p=232#comment-1236 That's a great post from Michael. He's a real inspiration to me, both as a blogger and as an SEO. That’s a great post from Michael. He’s a real inspiration to me, both as a blogger and as an SEO.

]]> By: Matt Geer http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/poker-link-building/poker-link-request-emails-that-suck-and-one-that-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1235 Matt Geer Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:18:43 +0000 http://www.pokerseo.org/blog/?p=232#comment-1235 Hey Randy, I just read a few different articles this past week on E. Ward's site and Micheal Martinez on this subject as well. Here is the link to the one on seomoz.com that was written by Micheal Martinez. http://www.seomoz.org/blog/good-seo-how-to-request-links-from-picky-sites It only compliments what you already have written here of course, but still worth giving a quick read. I'm sure many webmasters, regardless of their vertical, would be able to have much better link profiles if they were to take 5 minutes out of their day and write a sincere email. Great Post! Hey Randy,

I just read a few different articles this past week on E. Ward’s site and Micheal Martinez on this subject as well. Here is the link to the one on seomoz.com that was written by Micheal Martinez.

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/good-seo-how-to-request-links-from-picky-sites

It only compliments what you already have written here of course, but still worth giving a quick read. I’m sure many webmasters, regardless of their vertical, would be able to have much better link profiles if they were to take 5 minutes out of their day and write a sincere email.

Great Post!

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